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Bob P.

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(FINAL UPDATE 10/19) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69
« on: August 29, 2019, 09:59:47 AM »
I'm attempting a replica of the Harry Fletcher sidewinder driven by Johnny Grum.
The engine was offset to the left, with the driver to the extreme right. This was a unique car, that raced on dirt tracks in central Pa. and Md.

The car started out with a big block Ford, then later changed to a small block Chevy. I'm building the Chevy version.

I'm building this in 1/24th scale. I did build this car previously in 1/18th scale.

I'm using two sprint car frames cut in half, widened and lengthened.

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This pictures shows the widened frame and a standard sprint car frame.

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This pictures shows some modifications to the frame and wheels and tires.
I'm using the sprint car tires and Big Donkey resin wheels.

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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2019, 10:48:14 AM »
Keep the updates coming Bob, I am going to watch this for some ideas.  I am toying with an old AMT Watson roadster to convert to a Super but I think it will be a lot less work that what you are building.  How many bad words did you use fitting those chassis sides together?  It looks easy but I know it is not. 
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Bob P.

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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2019, 11:53:09 AM »
Lefturns, I didn't use any bad words yet.

The hardest part for me is getting the proportions correct. As I look at my pictures, I'm not sure I lengthened the frame enough.
I'll just keep plugging away and see how it turns out.

Bob
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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2019, 05:23:37 PM »
Well David, after doing a lot of measuring and calculating I'm going to go with what I have.
At the very most it might be short 2 MM on the wheelbase. from the firewall to the front wheels, it's slightly longer than my 1/18th scale build. I'm trying to use the sprint car tires, so all my mounting points don't need changed. The right rear sprint car tire is about 3 MM larger than a Big Donkey tire. The left rear is smaller than Big Donkey tires. The right rear sprint car tire is a little wide for this time period, but this car was radical.

On the number 6 build I did a while back, I had to make all new mounts for the front and rear axles. I mounted them solid with metal brackets in the middle of the axles, out of sight. So when I get further along with the build we'll see how it turns out. I do know that too long is usually better than too short. To change it I would need to build a new frame.

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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2019, 06:11:48 PM »
Sounds like an interesting build, but for some reason I cannot open the pictures.  I get "Site cannot be found" when I click on the url.
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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2019, 10:43:14 AM »
Well David, if you could see the wheelbase was too short way down in Arkansas, it had to be too short.

You were correct and I had to give in and do a lot of work to lengthen the wheelbase.
I lengthened it 5 more MM. In scale it's around 100 inches now.

Axles also lengthened on this photo.

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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2019, 06:39:23 AM »
Technology is amazing, the pictures magically appeared today.  That is some amazing work you are doing, looking forward to more updates.
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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2019, 05:18:04 PM »
This is a very cool project Bob. I think the first wheel base was a tad short also. If I remember right...most of the Supers had a wheel base from 98-102 inches. Don't quote me on that. You sure have my building juices going on this one... Looking forward to you next update for sure....
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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2019, 06:05:05 PM »
The wheelbase for modifieds/super modifieds varies around the country. The midwest modifieds are mostly 100 inch cars. The supers that raced where I grew up (New Mexico) were around 85 to 88 inch cars, this matched up with Arizona and Southern CA cars which made for some great car counts during special events! It also matches up with most sprint cars around the country, that's why Bob needed to lengthen his sprint car frame to get to 100 inches. Bob, that will be a great project, there weren't many offset dirt cars around

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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2019, 08:01:32 PM »
Thanks guys for the comments and interest in this project.

This one is moving slow. I think my next build has to be something easy.

Small update below.

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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2019, 02:11:57 PM »
Another small update.

Aluminum panels fabricated, behind seat, firewall and rock guard combined, both side panels and frame brace in place on the left side of frame above the engine.

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Dash and top frame rail shown.

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Front view shows firewall and combined rock guard. Cut out on left for drivers feet to extend forward beside engine and under headers.

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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69 (UPDATE 9/14
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2019, 01:11:59 PM »
That looks like it's going to be a nice one! Good subject.
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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69 (UPDATE 9/14
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2019, 01:17:49 PM »
You're doing some GREAT fab work Bob.
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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69 (UPDATE 9/14
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2019, 04:50:55 PM »
Another small update,

Finished making a couple more body panels using thin aluminum.

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Front bumper and screen installed.

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Left side view.

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Engine, dash panel and tires and wheels.
Tires and wheels from Big Donkey resin.


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Thanks for looking.

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Re: (On the bench) Harry Fletcher 66 driven by Johnny Grum 1967 thru 69 (UPDATE 9/31
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2019, 05:10:59 PM »
This looks great Bob!  Not something I would attempt - keep the pics coming!
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