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Construction Topics => Fab shop-under construction pics => Topic started by: MarkJ on November 26, 2017, 08:16:10 AM

Title: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on November 26, 2017, 08:16:10 AM
The kit:

(https://s6.postimg.org/dpz2p5hpd/57junwipreboml2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/slxlwqt3x/)

Have to remove one molding from each side and all the mold lines.

(https://s6.postimg.org/6mr79i9ox/57junwipreboml1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

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Added headlight and taillight opening covers. Don't know if this car had exhaust coming out of taillights. Cant find a rear view picture of it.

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Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: pdaly28 on November 26, 2017, 11:34:46 AM
nice start,the 57 ford builds into a nice stockcar!keep us posted!
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: Bob P. on November 26, 2017, 01:25:05 PM
Nice start Mark.

Is this going to be a replica? Asphalt or dirt car?

Bob
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: Gary Davis on November 26, 2017, 02:30:28 PM
That's another great start Mark...
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on November 27, 2017, 06:39:25 AM
Thanks, guys.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on November 27, 2017, 06:57:36 AM
I found a you tube video of the race that this car competed in and found a split second shot of the rear of the car. It was very grainy but you can make out that it did have exhausts coming out of the taillight covers and also showed that the ford emblem was still on the trunk. I had already puttied over the depression where the emblem goes so I had to remove the putty. Luckily it  just popped out in one piece when I  hit it with the exacto knife. It also shows the bungi setup for the trunk and the bungi appears to be a very light color. also the fuel overflow hose comes out of the top of the left taillight cover. I need to make the exhaust pipes a little more thin walled but not go too far.

(https://s6.postimg.org/vlrhgpiz5/57junwipsextido.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: JimW on November 27, 2017, 08:44:50 AM
didn't know those Fords had the exhaust pipes coming out the rear tail lights .. Thanks Mark for that tid-bit !  I though only the fuel over flow tube were there ?  now you have me looking at any 1957 nascar video's to see what else those guy got away with ..lol 
 your 57 Ford looks great keep up the work we will be watching
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: Greg Birky on November 27, 2017, 01:46:54 PM
Jim, the April 2014 issue of Scale Auto mag has a thorough build article by Clay Kemp on Fireball Roberts 57 Ford dirt car and a lot of little details that one might not think of.  I love your work on this one, Mark.  Going to be one to watch.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: David Bogard on November 27, 2017, 04:00:46 PM
Since you took off the side molding and added the tail light exhaust, I'm guessing the Junior Johnson #11? It looks great whatever race car it is!
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on November 27, 2017, 04:31:25 PM
Added some bungi stays for the hood and trunk. The handle on the hood doubled as a stay and a handle. Still need to add the fuel overflow.

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Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: pdaly28 on November 29, 2017, 11:59:15 AM
those bungie stays are a super detail,as are the tail light exhaust!
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on November 29, 2017, 02:46:19 PM
those bungie stays are a super detail,as are the tail light exhaust!

Thanks Pdaly. I got the color blended to match the border on the decals so I hope to be painting the body soon. Going back to model master acryl for this one. I'm making the decal border the color of the car because there is a lot of small script decals for this car. Too small to trim them and look presentable. Also I could not find a spray can that came close enough to match the color of the real  car.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: David Bogard on November 29, 2017, 04:58:11 PM
Real interested to see how you do your bungie cords. That's always been a problem for me.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on November 29, 2017, 05:03:22 PM
Got the engine put together. I needed a Purolator racing air cleaner like they used back then, so I converted the stock air cleaner that comes in the kit into one that looks some what like a Purolator. Just need to sand it smoother, paint it red, and put some decals on it. I will make the air cleaner fastener look more like a nut

(https://s6.postimg.org/lafmv3agh/57junwipschaicl1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

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Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on November 29, 2017, 05:06:04 PM
Nice start Mark.

Is this going to be a replica? Asphalt or dirt car?

Bob

Bob, its going to be hopefully a replica of a car that ran in 1958 on the grand national circuit. One I always wanted to do.

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Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on November 29, 2017, 05:14:41 PM
Real interested to see how you do your bungie cords. That's always been a problem for me.

David, I use elastic bracelet cord that they sell at hobby lobby. I will color it with a sharpie because if you use paint it flakes off. Just tie some .032 guage wire on the ends and form them it into a hook. you make it just a little smaller than the length you need so when its installed it stays tight. I made one for the hood of 39 ford I did a couple of months ago.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 01, 2017, 06:54:37 AM
I needed to mix paint to get the color I wanted for the model. I started out with French blue, which was too light, so I added some black, but added too much, so I then began adding white till I finally got the color pretty close to the color I used for the decal borders. when using the model master acryl, you have to wait for the paint to completely dry, because it always dries  darker than it is when you first dab it down. I now have a full bottle of paint to use on the model. Also got the engine done, and the seat.

(https://s6.postimg.org/tfoykub2p/57junwipfopaco1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://s6.postimg.org/hdtkqoeox/57junwipfopaco2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

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Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: pdaly28 on December 01, 2017, 04:02:51 PM
I also am eager to see how thepaint works out!!!love the rest of it too.I cut the bottom of the seat in half also an cut the end and glued it back on.Looks like the service seat in the ranchero work truck
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 01, 2017, 04:59:09 PM
Thanks guys. I painted the blue today and am really pleased with the way it looks. Its really close to the one color reference picture I found of the car. It came from a you tube video so its not going to be exact but its in the ball park and matches well with the color chip I found for the color that i'm pretty sure the car was. There were 2 blues in 1957 one like the one I chose and a real light blue which I know its not. The black and white reference pictures I have of the car proves that. No way it was a light blue or even a petty blue like i've seen some people do this car. That's if they kept it a factory color which most teams did back then.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 02, 2017, 05:04:23 PM
Got the frame ready to prime and removed the rear seat and replaced it with sheet styrene. I taped the side trim and dash to see how everything will fit with the body installed. I must say the fit of the parts in this kit is very good. everything fits nicely without having to do a lot of modifying to get things to fit.

(https://s6.postimg.org/3p4uh7nm9/57junwipsresere1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: Greg Birky on December 03, 2017, 03:43:53 PM
Nice job on the color matching, Mark!!!  I'm looking forward to seeing this one in color!!!  Neat model so far!!!😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🏁
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 03, 2017, 04:14:17 PM
Nice job on the color matching, Mark!!!  I'm looking forward to seeing this one in color!!!  Neat model so far!!!😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🏁

Thanks , Greg. I sanded the body today to get it ready for the clear. The weather looks iffy for the next couple of days but I have a lot of other things to paint on the car that can be brush painted inside the house so that's ok.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 04, 2017, 04:14:05 PM
(https://s6.postimg.org/y5b7ym2wx/57junwipsstroca1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

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Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: Bob P. on December 04, 2017, 04:54:22 PM
Coming along nicely Mark, keep us posted.

Bob
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 07, 2017, 12:21:38 PM
(https://s6.postimg.org/hbk9hfhgx/57junwipsenpare1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://s6.postimg.org/i131tspq9/57junwipsenpare2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

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Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 07, 2017, 02:39:07 PM
Is this all hand-brushed Acrylic? Looks super smooth! What brand is that again? Are you thinning it or just brushing it straight?

David, the frame is hand brushed model master acryl. I needed semi gloss black but only had a small amount of flat black that was starting to dry out so I mixed in some gloss black and a little bit of testors acryl thinner. I find if you use a big brush the acryl will go on smoother. The engine, dash and seat are just regular out of the bottle model master acryl put on with a big brush which puts the paint down smoother. The kit comes with a decal for the seat which makes it look more authentic except that its too glossy. I might hit the seat with some testors dull cote lacquer from a spray can. Its wet and cold outside so I will have to wait a few days for it to warm up again or just install it glossy.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 07, 2017, 04:49:06 PM
Don't want to be a pest  ::) but do you have a shot of what you call a "big brush"? I currently spray nearly everything and I do it in my garage so you can imagine the negative "fallout" from that. If I could do some things with this Model Master Acrylic and a brush, it would be a good thing. Thanks again!

Sure David. Its a little too late tonight. But I'll take a picture of the big brushes tomorrow and post them here. The big brush allows you to put more paint down and helps eliminate the brush bristle ridges you get using a small brush with less paint. The most important thing is to let the paint dry completely before you do another coat or it really messes things up.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: Olderndirt on December 07, 2017, 08:33:47 PM
Mark you really had me worried when you went through several posts talking about mixing what looks for all the world like Ford blue. And, then showed us a picture of that very nice unpainted Ford Y block. I was dipping my poison pen in fresh venom when the next pics came up, with the old Y block all decked out in traditional red, and black. Yah done good. I got all worried for nuthin’. I really like what you did with the front seat as well. I can’t wait to see the finished car.

  Olderndirt
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 08, 2017, 08:05:55 AM
Mark you really had me worried when you went through several posts talking about mixing what looks for all the world like Ford blue. And, then showed us a picture of that very nice unpainted Ford Y block. I was dipping my poison pen in fresh venom when the next pics came up, with the old Y block all decked out in traditional red, and black. Yah done good. I got all worried for nuthin’. I really like what you did with the front seat as well. I can’t wait to see the finished car.

  Olderndirt

Yes, the mixed paint is only for the body. Thanks for the feedback
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 09, 2017, 07:44:54 AM
Don't want to be a pest  ::) but do you have a shot of what you call a "big brush"? I currently spray nearly everything and I do it in my garage so you can imagine the negative "fallout" from that. If I could do some things with this Model Master Acrylic and a brush, it would be a good thing. Thanks again!

Sure David. Its a little too late tonight. But I'll take a picture of the big brushes tomorrow and post them here. The big brush allows you to put more paint down and helps eliminate the brush bristle ridges you get using a small brush with less paint. The most important thing is to let the paint dry completely before you do another coat or it really messes things up.

David, Check your personal messages for info on the brushes
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: pdaly28 on December 10, 2017, 10:41:07 AM
hey Mark,pretty interested in the brushs also.I do use model master.from time to  tie and am getting away from rattle cans
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 10, 2017, 05:12:54 PM
hey Mark,pretty interested in the brushs also.I do use model master.from time to  tie and am getting away from rattle cans

Ok Pat. Here are the brushes I use. The top one is for seats, dashes, wheels, trim panels and other things about that size. the middle brush is for frames and interior tubs. the bottom brush is for coating the body with Future or what is now known as Pledge Floor Care.

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Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: pdaly28 on December 10, 2017, 08:34:27 PM
thanks mark
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: john2 on December 11, 2017, 03:47:57 AM
 :)   It is coming along really well, Mark.  I have  been too wound up with my upcoming move to watch closely, but I do thank you for sharing this.  I am looking forward to seeing it finished.

The tri five Chevies take the spotlight, especially in short track, so it is good to see an old Ford get some notice.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 11, 2017, 06:20:06 AM
Your welcome, Pat. Thanks John for the feedback. I'm getting closer and closer to the end.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: Dr. Kerry on December 12, 2017, 12:03:59 PM
Lookin good!!!!!!
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 12, 2017, 04:58:47 PM
Thanks, Doc. I think the frame/interior is pretty much done. Trying to glue in the glass to roof and the fit is not real good. finally got them glued. Will have to let the glue completely dry before I install the frame to the body. This is the first real fit issue I have had with this kit. Everything else has fit really well.

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Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: Gary Davis on December 12, 2017, 08:01:13 PM
Great job on the Chassis Mark. Clean work..as usual...
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 13, 2017, 06:49:41 AM
Great job on the Chassis Mark. Clean work..as usual...

Thanks, Gary. I really appreciate the feedback.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 13, 2017, 09:07:36 AM
Its finished except for the decals, bungi straps and future. Had a couple of hiccups getting the body to fit to the frame but I finally got it together. I like the grille because you don't have to black wash it. Its just like a real grille.
Title: Re: 1957 Ford
Post by: MarkJ on December 17, 2017, 07:10:16 AM
More pictures in the Early Grand National forum.

(https://s6.postimg.org/ehnjnfas1/57jun16.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)