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Title: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: David Bogard on November 27, 2018, 11:54:01 AM
I just needed a fun break so I started on a 40 Ford jalopy. These things are a blast to build and you just can't mess one up since they were generally all "backyard builds" in the first place. I will keep whittling around on this but here is where I am after a couple of hours.
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Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Marty W on November 27, 2018, 02:40:23 PM
Good start, David! They are a lot of fun to build, aren't they?! One of my favorite go to subjects.
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Dirtman on November 27, 2018, 04:16:29 PM
My all time favorite car. On the street or the track! Really looking forward to this one!

Rett
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Bob P. on November 27, 2018, 04:54:19 PM
Looking good David. It will be interesting to watch what you do with this one.

Bob
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: MarkJ on November 27, 2018, 05:08:18 PM
Another Awesome one in the making.
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: john2 on November 27, 2018, 07:59:56 PM
 :)  Good choice, David.  Back yard cars are my style.
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Olderndirt on November 28, 2018, 08:18:24 AM
You’re going to have to really push the envelope to surpass the beautifully weathered blue and white forty you showed us in the past. But, I’m sure you can do it.

  Olderndirt
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: BobD on November 28, 2018, 12:51:45 PM
Also one of my favorite subjects to build.....AAHHH, things were so simple then!
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Marty W on November 28, 2018, 01:14:38 PM
Yup, I liked that old Ford too OND so this one will probably be pretty similar. This is just a relaxing fun type build (all jalopies are!) so however it comes out, it comes out.

I am trying to remember which one that was? Seems like a lot of people like '40 Fords, including me. It was my dad's first car. Maybe we should start a "Post your '40 Fords section"? I remember there was one on Fred's site.
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Marty W on November 28, 2018, 06:13:45 PM
Oh yeah, that one. One of my favorite builds of yours!
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: TarheelRick on November 29, 2018, 03:27:42 AM
As much as I love the 40 Ford I have only built one, and that was the first model I ever built back in 1959.  Of course it is lllooonnnggg gone.  I have several in the stash, so there is no real excuse.
Really like where you are going with this build.  Those old circle burners required a real set of manhood to drive.
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Olderndirt on November 29, 2018, 08:02:52 AM
O.K. We have established that we all have a soft spot for’40 Fords. My next question is coupe, or sedan? When I first started building as a kid, these kits were brand new. Everybody I knew, that built model cars, was building them. Ninety percent of them were building coupes. I just always liked the old hunchbacked sedan better. If fact a few years ago I was at the NNL in Santa Clara and found an old first edition  black plastic sedan kit in the built section of one of the vendors there. I passed it up four times because even though it was in the  original box and had the instructions, and the trading card, with it, it also had about three heavy coats of brush paint slathered all over it. But, I saw another old guy stop, and look it over for the second time, and had to have it.
 I don’t know why, but I never tire of innovating, and renovating, ‘40 Fords.

 Olderndirt
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: bandit2026 on November 30, 2018, 03:48:52 PM
Don't forget that the old flat motors only had 3 pipes as the center ports were together. It has happened, just ask Fred!!
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: john2 on November 30, 2018, 04:00:11 PM
 :)  lol  I did not drill holes, but I did glue a 4 port header on one.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Olderndirt on December 01, 2018, 11:42:03 AM
We can all probably blame the confusion on that old  Aurora roadster kit that had four straight pipes sticking out the sides of the engine compartment like Dagwood hair. I built one, and proudly showed it to my uncle, who immediately pointed out the problem.

  Olderndirt
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Dirtman on December 04, 2018, 03:29:37 PM
I'm not sure I like you much anymore!!////////"joking"///// I have enough of a time building a car let alone a driver! Having said that, great looking build!!!

Rett
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Dirtman on December 04, 2018, 10:22:36 PM
Gee, never thought of it like that...lol

Rett
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: TarheelRick on December 05, 2018, 03:29:12 AM
Plus they get to sit in some really great looking race cars.
I have a question concerning those tires.  They look to be home-grooved kit tires of some sort.  My question is how do you get the edges smooth?  When I sand mine on the drill press I get really rough edges.  What is your technique?
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: sentsat71 on December 05, 2018, 07:33:12 AM
Just curious.....
What's the manufacturer of this kit? AMT? Lindberg? other?
Tires are from?

Thanks.....
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Olderndirt on December 05, 2018, 09:01:04 AM
Larry’s stuff is pretty hard to beat, and his accessibility, and service, is great. He has put me on the right path in some of my builds. His decals are good also.

  Olderndirt
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: sentsat71 on December 06, 2018, 07:44:10 AM
Thanks for the info, David

Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: MarkJ on December 08, 2018, 12:40:18 PM
David , That driver really looks cool in there. One time I put a 1/24 scale driver in a 1/25 scale model and he looked like an athlete that had been taking steroids for too long. His head was huge. Yours looks perfect.
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Dirtman on December 13, 2018, 03:02:18 PM
Man, I wish I could put them together as fast as you! I'm still working on the rear end of mine, lol

Rett
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Olderndirt on December 13, 2018, 03:13:09 PM
Another little detail that you rarely see on models, but  were very common on Flathead Ford powered cars, was the headers on the drivers side being spread as far apart, and away from the steering box as possible. More than one driver lost his steering when the oil in the box rendered itself down to tar. That may we why you see so many pipes going upwards instead on down.

 Olderndirt
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Marty W on December 13, 2018, 04:34:04 PM
Another little detail that you rarely see on models, but  were very common on Flathead Ford powered cars, was the headers on the drivers side being spread as far apart, and away from the steering box as possible. More than one driver lost his steering when the oil in the box rendered itself down to tar. That may we why you see so many pipes going upwards instead on down.

 Olderndirt

Do you have an example of that on a model you built? It would be interesting to see how you handled that.
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: BobD on December 14, 2018, 10:57:15 AM
This looks like its gonna be a tough hombre on the track David!  I always enjoy your building tutorials - especially like your radiator screen mounts on this one.  I'll have to try this one sometime.
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Olderndirt on December 14, 2018, 12:19:34 PM
Actually since most of the old short trackers I’ve built over the years are ‘32-‘40 Fords built from old AMT kits, that were marketed without steeringboxes I built them with bobed  fenders and didn’t bother with a steeringbox.
 There is a old story of one of the famous Indy racers first trip to the brickyard with a Flathead powered car that failed to finish the race for just such a failure.

 Olderndirt
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Olderndirt on December 14, 2018, 02:38:13 PM
By the way David that truck radiator is outstanding. I’m going to try my hand at building a similar radiator for my vintage Buick straight eight hardtop. Thanks for the step by step on this. I am going to have to fabricate a steeringbox for it as well, since it’s open wheel.

 Olderndirt
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Dirtman on December 20, 2018, 03:08:43 PM
Looking great! Having said that, if I did all the little details like the shaker, etc., I'd end up building one car a year maybe!! I just can't get things done that fast!

Rett
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: Dr. Kerry on December 21, 2018, 09:18:17 AM
Looking very good David!!!!!!  8)
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer
Post by: RandB11 on December 23, 2018, 12:39:33 PM
Another beauty David!! Can't wait to see it with paint! Outstanding detail!
Rick :)
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: Olderndirt on December 28, 2018, 08:50:17 PM
Somehow I just knew at least part of this build would be blue. Great looking car. Love the hinges on the hood. Tires need a little dirt in the tread, but other than that it perfect. Really like the driver also, makes it just that more real.

  Olderndirt
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: Dirtman on December 28, 2018, 09:44:06 PM
Way to go David! As I said, you got this one done......I've got part of my chassis done, lol. But, I'm anxious to keep going on mine so I'll keep on keepin' on!!

This one is really cool!

Rett
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: RandB11 on December 28, 2018, 10:49:13 PM
Looks good David! The colors ,numbers,and the old Esso decal all fit the times !  8)

Rick :)
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: Marty W on December 29, 2018, 03:07:39 AM
I have to say, it looks pretty authentic to me. I give it another 11!
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: john2 on December 29, 2018, 05:05:58 AM
 :)  another good one.  my fav colors  --  blue and white.
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: sentsat71 on December 29, 2018, 06:58:14 AM
Turned out GREAT!!

Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: Hondo on December 29, 2018, 07:55:56 AM
Very nice, David.
Looking at your series of pics makes me believe it would be a fun build.
I'm sure I have enough parts and pieces to pull one of these off.
I can remember seeing those old modifieds run at the 1st track I went to as a young lad.

Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: Hondo on December 29, 2018, 10:46:08 AM
Agreed, David. I think I need "simpler" to get back up to speed. I speed too much time in the redo-engineering aspect, that's a good thing, but not getting much glued together. I will have to say, I have been off for the holidays and have made some good headway on one of my builds.
Got a couple modified/skeeter types started, so I think I'll try to get to those soon too.
Thanks to you and everyone for motivation.......
Happy New Year !!

Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: Michael F on December 29, 2018, 01:48:55 PM
Very nice, David.

It looks like a real frontrunner !!
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: MarkJ on December 29, 2018, 04:11:23 PM
Oh my gosh. This is so freaking Awesome. Every thing about it is way over the top in greatness. the build, the paint , The decals, The stance, The super cool driver. You've really out done yourself on this one, David.
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: Marty W on December 29, 2018, 05:19:08 PM
Well, for once I think I agree with you OND. I keep looking at this and I will indeed put a little heavier grime on the tires. I tend to go very light with the weathering as it is SO easy to overdo. Give me a couple of days and I'll show a photo or two with just a tad more mud on those shoes!

I say put as much or as little dirt anywhere you see fit. It could have just come off the trailer. I don't see any problem with the way you built it at all. Again, great job! OnD, it would be appreciated if you would post examples of your accurate builds. I promise to be gentle! I would really like to see something you have done, on a separate post, of course.:)
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: Bob P. on December 30, 2018, 06:30:59 PM
Another very nice build David, great weathering job also.

Bob
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: Olderndirt on December 30, 2018, 08:22:32 PM
I would say the weathering is just about perfect. I really like the light weathering a lot better than those that look like they just ran a mud bog. Was this dry brushed, or airbrushed? This is a real fine old school racer, that would be great in a diorama.

  Olderndirt
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: Dirtman on December 30, 2018, 09:22:16 PM
Not into that weathering stuff myself but this was just right!!!
Rett
Title: Re: '40 Ford Old Timer Completed 12-28-2018
Post by: BobD on January 03, 2019, 10:18:19 AM
I'm not fussy about weathered, dented, bashed, rolled, demolished, etc!!  It LOOKS GREAT!!