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Construction Topics => Tips-tricks => Topic started by: David Bogard on May 31, 2017, 02:44:07 PM

Title: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: David Bogard on May 31, 2017, 02:44:07 PM: This is part of my Impala Glue Bomb re-build so I wanted to share the process I typically use in case it could help someone else who has to stretch one out quite a bit and has trouble keeping things lined up.
First thing I had to do on the Impala was to open the front wheel wells up like they should be.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6804_zpsr4plud8f.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6804_zpsr4plud8f.jpg.html)
Next, after I have determined where best to add the length, I get some hollow plastic square tubing that will accept a plastic rod nice and snugly.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6792_zpslvdqozsz.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6792_zpslvdqozsz.jpg.html)
I then super glue a couple of lengths onto a good solid point on the chassis making sure I keep them lined up with the rails. I also then make a couple of measurements and make my cut mark.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6793_zpsnvpzv4zf.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6793_zpsnvpzv4zf.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6794_zpsxccnkfoe.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6794_zpsxccnkfoe.jpg.html)
Take your razor saw and take your time to make a nice clean and straight cut.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6795_zpsljdxaw2m.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6795_zpsljdxaw2m.jpg.html)
Cut a couple of lengths of rod and super glue them into the hollow square tubing on one end of the chassis.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6797_zpso8zmklbi.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6797_zpso8zmklbi.jpg.html)
Now, slide those rods into the rear half of the chassis and into the hollow square tubing. You can now easily slide your lined up and stable chassis closer or farther away to match your build body.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6799_zpshrho92xr.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6799_zpshrho92xr.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6798_zpsqvdwegai.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6798_zpsqvdwegai.jpg.html)
I will usually put a piece of plastic (or dimes or whatever) under the frame just to make certain there is no sagging and then I move my chassis to whatever length I need.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6802_zpsxffj0if8.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6802_zpsxffj0if8.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6803_zpsbubjyrml.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6803_zpsbubjyrml.jpg.html)
In this case, I simply set the body on the car and moved the chassis out to where I wanted it. As you can see, it ended up pretty far out there!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6805_zpsq8apll3z.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6805_zpsq8apll3z.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6806_zpsmibg38iw.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6806_zpsmibg38iw.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6807_zpscmouhxsx.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6807_zpscmouhxsx.jpg.html)
Once it's right where I want it to be, I drop a dab of super glue onto the sliding side of the rod to lock things in place. Then I can go ahead and fill in the gap and make it all look as clean as it needs to be. That also adds all of the strength that will ever be needed in the future as far as this stretched chassis goes. Once it all starts to take shape, grind/sand off those hollow tubes we used as they were simply makeshift rails. Once in a while you can glue them into a spot where they can remain but in this case they needed to go. This build is going to have a black frame so a little squirt was applied just to see how it all blended in.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6808_zpse2vkyg40.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6808_zpse2vkyg40.jpg.html)
Here's the final. The frame is stretched, everything lines up perfectly, it's solid as a rock and it fits my build body like a glove!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/BestPark/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6809_zpsksmvo5we.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/BestPark/media/Glue%20Bomb%202%20and%203/DSCN6809_zpsksmvo5we.jpg.html)
As usual there are many ways to do this and some may be better. THis is simply the way I do them in order to keep things lined up and make it easy in the process. Hope this helps someone down the road!
Title: Re: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: Hondo on May 31, 2017, 06:54:30 PM: Great info there, David. It will come in handy for sure.
Thanks for taking time to post it & the pix.
Title: Re: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: BobD on May 31, 2017, 11:00:39 PM: Thanks for the great tutorial & easy to follow instructions. I would like to see as much of this kind of info as possible....it gets the juices flowing. (I need all the help I can get!)
Title: Re: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: pdaly28 on June 01, 2017, 11:31:49 AM: Thanks for the tip!!!!
Title: Re: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: Dirtman on June 01, 2017, 02:44:13 PM: Sure helped me find a good way to do this. Thank you!!!

Rett
Title: Re: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: dan on June 02, 2017, 08:07:23 AM: Ok, I have to ask. Forgive me if this is a dumb question.

How do you get the piece to add in the middle, which gives it the extra length? I am guessing you created it out of a sheet of plastic, but how do you get the details to match so perfectly?
Title: Re: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: john2 on June 02, 2017, 08:50:56 AM: :) I will be very interested to hear what they tell you. lol Especially the matching part. lol

And even moreso, the perfectly part.
Title: Re: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: RandB11 on June 04, 2017, 01:29:30 AM: What a great idea! Thanks for tutorial!
Rick :)
Title: Re: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: Greg Birky on June 07, 2017, 03:43:42 PM: Cordon off the area...GENIUS at work!!! All three of your gluebomb rebuild tutorials of the Impala are so simple that you sometimes can't see the forest for the trees!!! Thank you for sharing your easy methods that are not too time consuming so as to bog the build down!!! gb 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💥BAM!!!
Title: Re: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: dan on June 07, 2017, 09:59:14 PM: Thanks for explaining. That is very awesome!
Title: Re: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: Greg Birky on June 08, 2017, 01:50:26 PM: Thanks, man, great info!!! gb 😊😄👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🏁
Title: Re: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: Stormin Norman on June 18, 2017, 02:52:18 PM: that is a perfect example of what you can do with Evergreen plastic or any type of plastic.....beautiful job bud!!!!.... :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Lengthening an old NASCAR frame
Post by: pdaly28 on October 06, 2017, 01:52:09 PM: and thanks again!!!!I have one of larry's 64 fairlane bodies and will be setting it on a late 90's amt nascar frame,so this is a big help!!!