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Title: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on April 23, 2025, 11:43:05 AM
Started on this one by cleaning up an old mercury body from a 1972 built kit that I had lost half of the pieces on so there was no way to resurrect it. I'm going to use the body as a test bed for my new airbrush to see how it works and see if I like the paint I have chosen to use on the Monte.

(https://i.postimg.cc/05TbRqTJ/1allison41.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c6cswP4s)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9Fyzcn2g/1allison42.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svD3cKv5)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: jh63fan on April 23, 2025, 03:21:58 PM
Which Monte Carlo kit are you going to use for the body and for the frame?
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on April 24, 2025, 11:50:00 AM
Jh. Below are some recent photos that will answer your question and show the test bed body primed and the decal sheet I will use and hope I don't mess up because there's only one chance per decal on this sheet to get it right. Not like the sheets I make with 5 spares per decal sheet.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Dwgn356s/1allison52.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/75fpg3pY)

(https://i.postimg.cc/wxmzj9F9/1allison53.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XX4m2STP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xCWS3Zjr/1allison54.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZBFgTVyj)

(https://i.postimg.cc/vB1s9ysL/1allison55.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N9wSqWL5)

(https://i.postimg.cc/przMGBym/1allison56.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/T5dshgVx)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on April 28, 2025, 04:11:18 PM
Got the gold on but need to prime the real build white. The gray makes it look too dark. Need to add the red and test my color separation line ability. Thats my new airbrush that is making my airbrushing so much easier.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3x9yrQdh/1allison64.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rD0ygb1Z)

(https://i.postimg.cc/rpmDKZrr/1allison65.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sMkjLcKj)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on April 29, 2025, 08:29:53 AM
I painted the sides of the test body with Tamiya white primer and will shoot Createx Wicked red on one side and plain old Createx wicked gold on the other side. Luckily, I found a bottle of it in my stash that had not separated out from age. It appears to be more metallic than the pearl gold I used the first time. If it looks good, I will start preparing the Monte Carlo body for paint.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 01, 2025, 08:33:39 AM
Got the test body ready for paint today. I will paint one side red and the other side metallic gold to see if I like it better than pearl gold. I might end up mixing the pearl gold with the metallic gold. That's the beauty of a test body. I originally had the test body primer gray, but I switched to Tamiya white primer in the can.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7h7LNTb7/1allison69.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/H8YHYnws)

(https://i.postimg.cc/nc4zj7yf/1allison70.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zVf54LDx)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mgTrQk4z/1allison71.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mt6R4btB)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 04, 2025, 01:14:56 PM
Had to clean the airbrush and came up with a system using paper towel and black sharpie to keep everything in order so I don't get lost putting it back together like the first time I cleaned this trigger style air brush. It has a lot more parts than the plunger type airbrush. I used the wicked gold on white primer on the right side of the test body and it came out much better than the wicked pearl gold on gray primer did. I also liked the wicked red and will use both of them on the Monte Carlo body.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pV8Vymmt/1allison72.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5j4WRN5P)

(https://i.postimg.cc/j2zR1Fpj/1allison73-jpg.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kRgr6fXr)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fTfwj172/1allison74.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4mnkXLSV)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Qx387j7K/1allison75.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0wzttVJ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Gm3bMzqc/1allison76.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WhKRzGBK)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: Razorback 46 on May 04, 2025, 02:02:45 PM
That turned out amazing! Can't wait to see it on the MC!

Wonder if that "test body" might end up as a Fantasy Cup car one of these days... ;D
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 05, 2025, 08:36:46 AM
Quote from: Razorback 46 on May 04, 2025, 02:02:45 PMThat turned out amazing! Can't wait to see it on the MC!

Wonder if that "test body" might end up as a Fantasy Cup car one of these days... ;D

Actually Razor, it will continue to be a test body forever. Eventually having many coats of white primer and different colors of paint for future builds. You just can't get a full picture of the paint from a white test spoon or piece of paper.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 10, 2025, 08:06:09 AM
Got some more work done. Had to shore up the gap at the hood to grille. Poor engineering by the model company.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zG1Nmx8x/1allison77-Copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzQSyXtK)

(https://i.postimg.cc/h46gsSwW/1allison79-Copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmrtyKnB)

(https://i.postimg.cc/66kq3LBv/1allison85-Copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bNwtzGH)

(https://i.postimg.cc/YqF7y5K4/1allison80-Copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D87RSYzF)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RZRZXkK7/1allison91-Copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Snn4KtZR)

(https://i.postimg.cc/sfhftQ5D/1allison97.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1hQSKP2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/bwzzDmWs/1allison98.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nCP8NGHJ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/WbmN1B9B/1allison100.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cz1TvQp7)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: 18degrees on May 12, 2025, 12:38:03 AM
I also have a Bobby Allison Coke Monte build that i started a few years ago that went back in the box. I used the actual BA #12 kit that was released a handful of years ago... saw that Mike's has one of those particular sealed kits for sale for $65 :o

I actually think my LHS may have one of those still on the shelf...
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 14, 2025, 03:59:16 PM
Dave, I can't remember when I bought this kit, but it was at hobby lobby and wasn't that much. I might have paid 40% off for it as well. Your kit might not be the model king kit like this one and is probably better engineered than this one. These model kings are always a little weird.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: 18degrees on May 14, 2025, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: MarkJ on May 14, 2025, 03:59:16 PMDave, I can't remember when I bought this kit, but it was at hobby lobby and wasn't that much. I might have paid 40% off for it as well. Your kit might not be the model king kit like this one and is probably better engineered than this one. These model kings are always a little weird.

yah, your build made me go back and look at mine... AMT reissue from a few years ago.  and surprisingly it's closer to being done than not, so that may be the next one to roll with.  no idea why i abandoned it, doesn't look like i had problems with it that stumped me... may have been what i was working on when i moved.  i distinctly remember working on this at my old house.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 15, 2025, 07:47:42 AM
Quote from: 18degrees on May 14, 2025, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: MarkJ on May 14, 2025, 03:59:16 PMDave, I can't remember when I bought this kit, but it was at hobby lobby and wasn't that much. I might have paid 40% off for it as well. Your kit might not be the model king kit like this one and is probably better engineered than this one. These model kings are always a little weird.

yah, your build made me go back and look at mine... AMT reissue from a few years ago.  and surprisingly it's closer to being done than not, so that may be the next one to roll with.  no idea why i abandoned it, doesn't look like i had problems with it that stumped me... may have been what i was working on when i moved.  i distinctly remember working on this at my old house.


Just remember, the wheels that come in the model king kit are way too deep set to be like the ones on the actual car. I had to get some PPP wheels and tires to fix that problem.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 15, 2025, 08:09:46 AM
Did some more work getting rid of gaps at the front and finished the fairing at the quarter glasses.
I have decided to go ahead and prime the body white, but I won't prime the tub or the chassis. Be back to painting pretty soon.


(https://i.postimg.cc/6QxfyF27/1allison118.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MntQLPYx)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tgdtPDWB/1allison119.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtR3HsmK)

(https://i.postimg.cc/851dbWbN/1allison120.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QByW8FPy)

(https://i.postimg.cc/V6DqZ67M/1allison121.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sQGGvVCD)

(https://i.postimg.cc/50q74bsN/1allison103.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zbvSpZm9)

(https://i.postimg.cc/yxxFMH5G/1allison122.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YLcGFJtN)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RhYc9YxZ/1allison123.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V0jSWDNx)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: 18degrees on May 15, 2025, 10:38:57 PM
Quote from: MarkJ on May 15, 2025, 07:47:42 AM
Quote from: 18degrees on May 14, 2025, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: MarkJ on May 14, 2025, 03:59:16 PMDave, I can't remember when I bought this kit, but it was at hobby lobby and wasn't that much. I might have paid 40% off for it as well. Your kit might not be the model king kit like this one and is probably better engineered than this one. These model kings are always a little weird.

yah, your build made me go back and look at mine... AMT reissue from a few years ago.  and surprisingly it's closer to being done than not, so that may be the next one to roll with.  no idea why i abandoned it, doesn't look like i had problems with it that stumped me... may have been what i was working on when i moved.  i distinctly remember working on this at my old house.


Just remember, the wheels that come in the model king kit are way too deep set to be like the ones on the actual car. I had to get some PPP wheels and tires to fix that problem.

Not gonna be a problem since it's the AMT version. Also, ahead of you on this part, PPP wheels and tires already painted and decaled.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 16, 2025, 08:54:47 AM
Quote from: 18degrees on May 15, 2025, 10:38:57 PM
Quote from: MarkJ on May 15, 2025, 07:47:42 AM
Quote from: 18degrees on May 14, 2025, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: MarkJ on May 14, 2025, 03:59:16 PMDave, I can't remember when I bought this kit, but it was at hobby lobby and wasn't that much. I might have paid 40% off for it as well. Your kit might not be the model king kit like this one and is probably better engineered than this one. These model kings are always a little weird.

yah, your build made me go back and look at mine... AMT reissue from a few years ago.  and surprisingly it's closer to being done than not, so that may be the next one to roll with.  no idea why i abandoned it, doesn't look like i had problems with it that stumped me... may have been what i was working on when i moved.  i distinctly remember working on this at my old house.


Just remember, the wheels that come in the model king kit are way too deep set to be like the ones on the actual car. I had to get some PPP wheels and tires to fix that problem.

Not gonna be a problem since it's the AMT version. Also, ahead of you on this part, PPP wheels and tires already painted and decaled.

Thats good. Really looking forward to seeing your build. I'm sure I can pick up some pointers from it to keep from making a major mistake.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 16, 2025, 09:05:00 AM
The fairing definitely looks aluminum and stops right at the roll cage upright at the drivers window. It looks like his seat might be red unless hes leaning way forward in that shot.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sxvQ5F0Y/1allison124.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSfwj5Pr)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 18, 2025, 09:00:13 AM
Finally got the front of the build finished and ready for primer and paint. I want to get the black things ready to paint first so I can do the red and the black items in one paint session, I will paint the gold parts last because masking even with the aluminum foil messes up metallic paint. The red parts will be okay to mask so gold will be shot last.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8CTVm5m8/1allison125.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sn15ymPV)

(https://i.postimg.cc/vZrsn99L/1allison126.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVRpnV8J)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9f1H8hLD/1allison127.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqqW5rKS)

(https://i.postimg.cc/266RgKt2/1allison128.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67DmvYtv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/50RdJmd1/1allison129.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LYL0BL80)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: 18degrees on May 18, 2025, 10:45:11 AM
Mark,

Thanks for the tip on masking metallics. I got mine out, painted the interior of the body and primered the outside. I was debating which section would be easier to mask off and was going to paint the gold first then the red. Now i will do the opposite.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 22, 2025, 10:02:37 AM
Started on the scratch cage.

(https://i.postimg.cc/258D9xXr/1allison130.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWg2C6SM)

(https://i.postimg.cc/sD7sMxhd/1allison132.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3d8P6K1n)

(https://i.postimg.cc/dV9F9f65/1allison133.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXMNF06m)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xCBVCVj1/1allison136.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XGKzHhyR)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 25, 2025, 08:36:02 AM
Some more. The little square deal is the head restraint in its formative state. Needs some filling and sanding before glueing to the cage.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8CqdtppS/1allison141.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1NVgHnS)

(https://i.postimg.cc/159GWYQf/1allison143.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G95TtK9C)

(https://i.postimg.cc/kGCQPTRY/1allison145.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LYyYzBTj)

(https://i.postimg.cc/4NBzjbfw/1allison146.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D84JXGbb)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 27, 2025, 07:47:18 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/T2qkKyPy/1allison147.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G9tPNmGr)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 28, 2025, 08:19:04 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/XYLJV79D/1allison148.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/75CD94sg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/rpYwrnn1/1allison149.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XZdWM80q)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Dzzzmkgf/1allison150.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4pySKkC)

(https://i.postimg.cc/KzkvrPwd/1allison151.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dkFYJyqB)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xTSTMbR4/1allison152.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t72jHJ83)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Dydfgypy/1allison153.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fXZRPZL)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: 18degrees on May 30, 2025, 06:43:33 PM
Hey Mark, looking good so far.

I am finished with the decals on my build, have a TON of extras leftover from the Powerslide sheet plus the kit sheet. If you have any decal issues lemme know.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 31, 2025, 05:36:19 PM
Quote from: 18degrees on May 30, 2025, 06:43:33 PMHey Mark, looking good so far.

I am finished with the decals on my build, have a TON of extras leftover from the Powerslide sheet plus the kit sheet. If you have any decal issues lemme know.

Thanks, Dave. I might just have to take you up on that if I mess a decal up. I don't think that sheet is available anymore if I needed to buy one. Hopefully I can get them on with no problem.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on May 31, 2025, 05:58:41 PM
Got some more work done here and there. Added some material to the treble bars in the left door that I will have to putty and sand. Also added some crush panels around the rear fender opening so you can't see the rear tires from inside the vehicle. Also, redid the fairings around the quarter glass openings. I can still get the left roof bar on the cage closer to the roof to shore up that gap some more.

(https://i.postimg.cc/RFPwMzVj/1allison154.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6b2czSc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9XnyKVk9/1allison157.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Dm1WbVnf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RZcfWtZ1/1allison160.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zyr3bmr)

(https://i.postimg.cc/YSRW3wgh/1allison161.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z99nb2wS)

(https://i.postimg.cc/63QGb1Lz/1allison162.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDQ3h8yJ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/yxg3sgGZ/1allison164.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SY4xGskS)

(https://i.postimg.cc/DZY49dxh/1allison165.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47V3ttC2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/bYW2LgGH/1allison166.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/140t3prf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/kG064Mrh/1allison167.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LgV6Qp8z)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: 18degrees on May 31, 2025, 06:44:41 PM
Quote from: MarkJ on May 31, 2025, 05:36:19 PM
Quote from: 18degrees on May 30, 2025, 06:43:33 PMHey Mark, looking good so far.

I am finished with the decals on my build, have a TON of extras leftover from the Powerslide sheet plus the kit sheet. If you have any decal issues lemme know.
Quote from: MarkJ on May 31, 2025, 05:36:19 PM
Quote from: 18degrees on May 30, 2025, 06:43:33 PMHey Mark, looking good so far.

I am finished with the decals on my build, have a TON of extras leftover from the Powerslide sheet plus the kit sheet. If you have any decal issues lemme know.

Thanks, Dave. I might just have to take you up on that if I mess a decal up. I don't think that sheet is available anymore if I needed to buy one. Hopefully I can get them on with no problem.
Thanks, Dave. I might just have to take you up on that if I mess a decal up. I don't think that sheet is available anymore if I needed to buy one. Hopefully I can get them on with no problem.

Just looked on Mike's site and there are 3+ in his inventory, so they are available. But the ones i have are cheaper ;D
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on June 01, 2025, 12:57:16 PM
Thanks again, Dave. Thats good to know that Mike has some, but I will check with you if I just need one decal and you can part with it.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on June 04, 2025, 08:46:24 AM
Tub is finished.

(https://i.postimg.cc/TPyVcDNN/1allison175.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBCTLHCv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3xxCd6XT/1allison176.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vcC6K02q)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tJbFymq8/1allison178.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XG2rkLyg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Qt1c2r3p/1allison179.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/njVsmgMz)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Kj5BYr4j/1allison181.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D488jGr3)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on June 07, 2025, 08:24:39 AM
Painted the stuff red that is supposed to be red on this particular car. The tubes on the floor will need to be painted black to match the cage.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1tLs4JsN/1allison182.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/S27wvLXy)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zBLqJ9Zr/1allison183.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MM8C53pP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3Nm7Gmxf/1allison184.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gLzfFwR3)

(https://i.postimg.cc/5tKxWfrg/1allison185.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/McRkyJqf)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: Rattlecan Dan on June 07, 2025, 04:19:52 PM
Looking awful nice so far. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on June 08, 2025, 01:09:23 PM
Thanks again, Donato. Looks like rain next week so it will be hard to squeeze in some paint sessions.
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on June 09, 2025, 08:18:37 AM
Removed the masking and cleaned the airbrush for the next round of painting. This time it will be all the black items whenever the weather allows it. In the meantime, I can work on the grille and engine which can be painted with a bristle brush at the table inside.

(https://i.postimg.cc/rpzqBdcn/1allison186.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSQyMkJn)

(https://i.postimg.cc/0yV8XGgK/1allison187.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tsVQYx49)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mgLLSXnG/1allison188.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rKH2VJch)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: MarkJ on June 14, 2025, 10:00:41 AM
Got the black parts painted that I can do with the airbrush. Some will have to be painted with a bristle brush. I also got the body masked to paint the gold.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Mp1Wt49Y/1allison201.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSykwCkW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/8CDTYH3g/1allison202.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZW7kBr4w)

(https://i.postimg.cc/k4Y9Bd57/1allison204.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7GzjWd7R)

(https://i.postimg.cc/B6n4Sv4h/1allison205.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hJ6HMcJx)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Zn9mND9p/1allison206.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WqPxL8w1)

(https://i.postimg.cc/v8jbyMjz/1allison208.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14pLcxyn)
Title: Re: 1972 Bobby Allison Monte Carlo
Post by: TarheelRick on June 14, 2025, 11:38:36 AM
Good looking build taking place here Mark. As always your attention to detail is beyond reproach. When I saw the blue taped body, Terry Labonte's Piedmont car came to mind.