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Title: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 03, 2018, 06:06:35 PM
  The past few months I've been spending my time with a few side projects...everything from resin casting 1:87 scale rail road car parts clear up to an 1/8th scale behemoth.   
 
  On Sept. 19th of 2017 fellow modeler and scratch builder Bob Hayes suffered a stroke at home and 2 more the next day in ICU which has left him with limited use of his Right hand. At the time of his strokes, he was scratch building an 1/8th scale '56 Ford pick up........Bob has asked me to help him finish up this build, which I consider to be an honor.
  For those of you who are not familiar with Bob, he scratch builds street -n- strip vehicles, mostly of the 60's era, in 1/8th scale.  He's also a contributor to Alumilte resin and fellow resident of Topeka, Ks.  Bob more or less told me that everything I knew about resin pouring was wrong and proceeded to teach me the right way.....its still a learning process.
  There is very little, if anything at all in 1/8th scale out there market wise or after market wise....thus every thing has to be scratch built.  This build includes products from Aluilite ,K&S Metals and Evergreen Plastics as well as 3-D printed parts.

The fallowing pictures are from Bob's Fotki acct. as it appeared while he was working on it prior to his stroke.
(https://images54.fotki.com/v1662/photos/0/3714830/15545438/56ford001vi-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/56ford001-vi.html)

(https://images43.fotki.com/v329/photos/0/3714830/15545438/56sohc002vi-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/56sohc002-vi.html)
  Resin cast 427 Ford ...Bob created the master

(https://images34.fotki.com/v1212/photos/0/3714830/15545438/SAM_0897vi-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/sam-0897-vi.html)
  The pulleys Bob cut on his lathe.

(https://images52.fotki.com/v1552/photos/0/3714830/15545438/SAM_0900vi-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/sam-0900-vi.html)

(https://images34.fotki.com/v1212/photos/0/3714830/15545438/03042017004vi-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/03042017004-vi.html)
  Interior floor is K&S Brass ....transmission hump soldered in place.

(https://images40.fotki.com/v1668/photos/0/3714830/15545438/03042017003vi-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/03042017003-vi.html)
  A real rubber shifter boot made of Alumilite Flex soft urethane casting rubber.

(https://images59.fotki.com/v905/photos/0/3714830/15545438/03042017006vi-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/03042017006-vi.html)
  Functional 4 link rear suspension made from K&S Brass...resin cast Ford 9" rear axle....K&S Brass frame.

  This is how I received it a couple of months ago......
(https://images15.fotki.com/v1626/photos/0/3714830/15545438/10318025-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-3-18-025.html)
  Everything you see in Red is 3-D printed.....Bob worked with someone else who does 3-D Printing.  From what I recall in a conversation with Bob, to get the 3-D printed interior and body parts delivered to his front door was just North of $1000.00    ...and you thought some of the 1:25th scale stuff that we deal with can get expensive.  I'm pretty sure that Bob had something to do with creating the master for this body.
  The tires where molded and cast by Bob using Alumilite Flex soft urethane casting rubber.  Combination resin cast and K&S Brass front axle and its components.

(https://images42.fotki.com/v1535/photos/0/3714830/15545438/10318012-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-3-18-012.html)


(https://images49.fotki.com/v1556/photos/0/3714830/15545438/10318015-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-3-18-015.html)
  Real wood was used for the bed floor along with K&S Brass...it even has working gate clasp and chain in the rubber hose.

(https://images14.fotki.com/v1665/photos/0/3714830/15545438/722180052-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/7-22-18-005-2.html)
  Does this door make my hand look small???   This gives you an idea of just how large 1/8th scale is.

(https://images49.fotki.com/v1556/photos/0/3714830/15545438/72218014-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/7-22-18-014.html)
  Bob wants working door hinges ...he had just started marking things on the doors when he had the stroke...this is where I pick up this project.  This picture shows the pockets that the door half of the hinges will fit into.  I am using a combination of Evergreen Plastics ,K&S Brass and Hillman Brass ornamental hinges to create the working door hinges.  I am using actual pictures of the door hinges that where used in the 1956 Ford Pickups as a guide in building the hinges. 
   (https://images20.fotki.com/v1666/photos/0/3714830/15545438/72218020-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/7-22-18-020.html)
  Don't know the K&S Brass piece #...all I can tell you is that it's 1.57mm. thick and 6.35 mm. wide. I had to take the width down some so as to be able to fit inside the Evergreen rectangle tube nice and tight. Instead of using the Dremel tool, I just used my regular grinder to remove the Brass, something that I am not accustomed to scratch building in 1:25th scale.  The Brass piece is the door half of the hinge.

 
 
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: sentsat71 on October 04, 2018, 07:53:59 AM
WOW!!

That is so COOL!!

Neat story as well......Glad you're able to help out....!
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 05, 2018, 08:19:36 PM
Working with such a large scale has its advantages (and disadvantages) and I have never personally built anything this scale. The good thing is that it looks like just about everything is already there so this may be more of an assembly effort. The 1:1 hinges look pretty clean. What's your plan on this Brian?
  This is actually the second time that Bob has farmed out something to me...the last time was a set of over the frame headers for an 1/8th scale Bantam Roadster drag car with a 409 Chevy engine.....it was an 1/8 scale replica of an actual drag car....I had plenty of pictures for reference  http://public.fotki.com/molderone/bantam-roadster/   used Plastruct plastic tubing for a perfect match.

  Yes, there are advantages .....not as many small parts to deal with being one of them and the ability to do more with the build as far as functioning parts ( working lights, sound system, suspension, etc etc.) and it has its disadvantages...I have to clear off the entire work area to build on one of these and you cant hide any details on the build like you can in 1:25, plus displaying these takes up a LOT of room.
 
  Yea, its pretty much going to be an assembly effort once I get the hinges built.....He's got a brake line coming off of the brake master cylinder so I don't know if he wants me to plumb the break lines or if he thinks that he is able enough with one good hand.  I'm going to have to move the front shocks just a hair more outboard as they are causing a stress fracture on the front axle beam .

  The door hinges are something that get loose and simply wear out over time.  There are a few aftermarket manufactures of these hinges (1:1 full size) for restorations.  I was able to locate several, really good pictures of the actual door hinge that is used in this era of Ford pick up's so I was able to draw up a draft.  I figured out the mathematical formula for converting everything to 1:8th scale so I should be good that way.  When I'm done it will look like what you have pictured.  I've got to use K&S Brass for everything with a weight load since those 3-D printed doors are heavy and there cant be any sag if displayed with an open door plus it has to close properly and remain in proper alignment.           
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 13, 2018, 08:22:50 PM
  Bob had started building the front suspension...it's about 80% done.  Its a dropped I-beam with struts and coil over shocks.  I'll be finishing the shocks that he started.  One thing about it....at this large scale you sure cant hide much like you can with the 1/25th scale stuff....leave something out of the detail and it really sticks out.

  (https://images53.fotki.com/v1495/photos/0/3714830/15545438/101318006-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-13-18-006.html)
  The round Black dot up against the frame rail is actually the shock shaft.  Using K&S Aluminum tubing for the shock body and shaft.  There are a set of coil springs that are kind of hard to see (just below the Black dot)
 that will be part of the coil over shocks.  I figure build these coil over shocks like I have for the 1:25 scale stock car coil overs.

(https://images59.fotki.com/v886/photos/0/3714830/15545438/101318011-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-13-18-011.html)
  I talked to Bob earlier today about the ride height....I'm not familiar with the dropped I beams (this is my first) and I didn't know if he wanted it slammed to the weeds or what.  He said "set it in the fenders a little bit and envision turning the wheels Left and Right with out the tire coming in contact with the fender"  .....
  I think I have it.....would appreciate comments from you guys who are more familiar as far if it looks right.(https://images46.fotki.com/v147/photos/0/3714830/13988633/idunno-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/my-first-album/idunno.html)
  I have the frame supported by a couple chunks of modeling clay for right now until I can get everything set.   
 
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 14, 2018, 06:55:50 PM
...Got the correct pictured posted, I don't know how that got past the poof err I mean proof reader.

  I'll be posting some more progress pictures of the hinges....lets just say that "Ace is the place with the helpful hardware man" and its the place for 1/8th scale parts and pieces.
  That pick up that you have posted looks spot on as far as the look that is trying to be achieved....I just need to figure out how to get everything mounted up solid.  I did a mock up of a coil over shock for the front and ran into issues...if I turn them upside down the spring fits without coming into contact with the frame, turn it right side up and the spring is up against the frame.  I asked Bob for some pictures of what the front suspension should look like, so hopefully he'll find some.
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 15, 2018, 10:03:28 PM
................ By the way, what is that pump looking thing that looks like it has a line to the brakes and one back under the firewall? I am certainly not any kind of "expert" on cars but I just can't figure out what that is?
  That makes 3 of us....Lefturns75 p.m'ed me and asked the same question.  I'll get ahold of Bob and see what he says.

(https://images34.fotki.com/v1605/photos/0/3714830/15545438/101518008-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-15-18-008.html)
  Here's the mystery piece in relationship to the rest of the engine...just to the lower Right of the crank pulley.  The engine has the alternator already in place, so that's out.  Maybe a water pump since there's no water pump pulley on the front side of the block  (https://images46.fotki.com/v147/photos/0/3714830/13988633/idunno-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/my-first-album/idunno.html) 

(https://images46.fotki.com/v677/photos/0/3714830/15545438/101518005-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-15-18-005.html)
  That front looks almost like some kind of water pump housing...the Black wire is attached to the frame rail behind this piece where the engine fire wall would be located and looks like it could go into the cab.  The Red wire is loose and goes no where....yet.  The Red wire is long enough to go to the engine side of the fire wall.  The back side of this piece has me confused...it doesn't resemble anything familiar.
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 16, 2018, 07:48:08 PM
  I might end up making my own coils...some thing with a smaller diameter that would fit better and closer to the shock body and farther away from the frame.....Bob said that the front suspension does not have to be functional, so the coil over shocks are just for appearance only.
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Lefturns75 on October 17, 2018, 11:18:22 AM
I am going out on a W. A. Guess about the part attached to the frame but I am sure Bob will fill you in on what it is.  Since the front looks kinda like an old Hilborn belt drive fuel pump, my guess is that is what it is.  The SOHC is injected and the fuel lines are also the same color as one of the lines on the part.  I never saw one mounted this way but I see no reason why you couldn't do so.  You have your hands full with this one, I'll just stick to snap kits.  Should I get the urge to build something large scale, I'll make it big enough I can drive it to the Boomerang Drive In for a burger but that's just me. 
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 17, 2018, 11:45:54 AM
I am going out on a W. A. Guess about the part attached to the frame but I am sure Bob will fill you in on what it is.  Since the front looks kinda like an old Hilborn belt drive fuel pump, my guess is that is what it is.  The SOHC is injected and the fuel lines are also the same color as one of the lines on the part.  I never saw one mounted this way but I see no reason why you couldn't do so....... 
  YOU NAILED IT I received an e-mail from Bob a while ago before making my way over here...he provided 1:1 pictures of this set up.  He also provided some pictures of the front suspension which is a help.  I sent him a link to this thread , he is quite happy with every ones post, the picture that David posted of a pick up, he said, is exactly how he envisions the front ride height.       
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 18, 2018, 07:55:38 PM
  At this scale (1/8) a lot more things become useful to facilitate a scratch build.  In this case, real hinges are used for the door hinges.

(https://images14.fotki.com/v219/photos/0/3714830/15545438/101418005-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-14-18-005.html)

  These came from my neighborhood Ace hardware store....these were the smallest ones sold....enough for one door.

 (https://images45.fotki.com/v1636/photos/0/3714830/15545438/101418010-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-14-18-010.html)

  Used the Dremel tool and cut down one side of the hinge, leaving the hinging part intact.  The large half will be mounted in the cab behind the door frame and under the dash for the top hinge......for the bottom hinge I'll have to fab an interior panel to conceal the cab half of the hinge.

(https://images59.fotki.com/v886/photos/0/3714830/15545438/101418023-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-14-18-023.html)
 
  Here's the mock up...there will be another part soldered to the piece sticking out that will fit inside the door
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Marty W on October 19, 2018, 03:52:46 AM
I am very interested in this build as well. I talked to Bob recently, but I either was not aware, or I forgot that he was doing this truck. I probably forgot! I hope to start on a 1/8 scale '55 Chevy gasser, in the near future. Got the body from Bob.

I will be following this truck build!
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 19, 2018, 07:13:20 PM
  HEY Marty ...were your ears burning early yesterday evening?  Bob called to do some coaching from the side lines and brought your name up for some reason.....I sent him the link to this thread a couple of days ago and he's read and re-read it a few times....small world isn't it? :)
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Marty W on October 20, 2018, 02:36:14 AM
Yes, small world. I have known Bob for several years, from back when he ran his Large scale modeler site. A very good friend, who I hope will get better, and get back to what he loves doing. I have way too many hobby projects, so I am sending him my 1/8 '41 Willys gasser, with a bunch of parts for him to build when he does recover.

I would like to contribute any parts I have that you can use for the pickup, like a battery, fuel/brake lines, U joints, or whatever else you can use that I might have?
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 21, 2018, 02:55:48 PM
.......
I would like to contribute any parts I have that you can use for the pickup, like a battery, fuel/brake lines, U joints, or whatever else you can use that I might have?
  Hopefully you haven't sent the Willy's yet.......that was one of the discussions from the other evening now that I think of it.
  Did a quick inventory last night.....he already has a battery in place with a ground wire coming off it, a single brake line coming off of the brake master cylinder...enough to reach the rear axle....so brake lines would come in handy...got the fuel lines covered between what he has already done on the engine and the Hilborn belt drive fuel pump, the build needs a set of U joints.  Do you by chance half the inner half of a rear wheel?  I haven't asked Bob yet if he has any of this, nor would I know where to look in his build room.
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Marty W on October 21, 2018, 05:16:17 PM
I have not shipped the Willys yet. I will dig up some brake line, and the U joints. Would you post a pic of the wheel? I might have the inner half of that. I have a lot of wheel parts and tires. Also, PM me your shipping address.
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 21, 2018, 05:40:23 PM
  Go ahead and send everything with the Willy's to Bob's.......also do you have any valve stems? He's only got one installed and still need 3 more.  I'll post a picture of what I need as far as the inner wheel goes...I'm going to update the WIP sometime yet this evening.
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 21, 2018, 09:13:16 PM
   Here's the pictures for Marty....the measurements are in mm.  I can convert them back over to standard if need be.

 (https://images59.fotki.com/v903/photos/0/3714830/15545438/102118005-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-21-18-005.html)
(https://images44.fotki.com/v1405/photos/0/3714830/15545438/102118008-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-21-18-008.html)
Front 1/2 only on the Left, complete wheel on Right.

(https://images53.fotki.com/v1495/photos/0/3714830/15545438/102118017-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-21-18-017.html)
(https://images53.fotki.com/v1495/photos/0/3714830/15545438/102118025-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-21-18-025.html)
Dimensions in mm. of the wheel half that is needed.

  Figured out the issues with the front suspension....no biggie and a rather simple fix. :)

(https://images14.fotki.com/v1315/photos/0/3714830/15545438/101918004-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-19-18-004.html)
 I had been having issues with the front suspension....manly the coil over shocks. The spring was touching the frame....even with the ride height set. Part of the problem was with the springs...scale wise they are too large of an outside diameter. I rectified that problem with a visit to the local hardware store. The other problem is that the Brass locating pins for the coil over shocks need to be moved outboard +- 1mm. The movement of the Brass locator pins will only be enough to gain some needed clearance on the frame rails , yet visually, the shocks will remain in alignment with the mounting nuts that are located below the Brass locating pins on the bottom side of the axle.

(https://images47.fotki.com/v1402/photos/0/3714830/15545438/101918008-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-19-18-008.html)
 Removed the locator pins...to keep the shocks in line with what appears to be some kind of mounting nut that is part of the axle on the bottom side, the hole was filled w/ CA and the new hole was drilled using a pin vice outboard from this one enough to provide needed clearance on the frame rails , yet visually remain in alignment with the mounting nut on the bottom side of the axle.

(https://images42.fotki.com/v1215/photos/0/3714830/15545438/102018006-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-20-18-006.html)
   Went to the hardware store and picked up a #3 compression spring which fits the shock body perfectly. There's enough spring to do 2 shocks. The gently used click pen will yield the adjustor nut and coil-over cone.

(https://images14.fotki.com/v1665/photos/0/3714830/15545438/102018012-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-20-18-012.html)
  Removed the tapered part of the click pen where the ink cartridge comes out. I removed a small section of the tapered portion for the coil-over cone and a small section the fits up inside the pen body for the adjustor nut.

(https://images20.fotki.com/v1666/photos/0/3714830/15545438/102018016-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-20-18-016.html)
  Once I clean these two pieces up...make them uniform in diameter size as opposed to the rough cut appearance they have now...I'll set the ride height and add the coil springs then CA everything in place. The shocks will be solid pieces with no movement and will support the frame off of the front axle.

Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Marty W on October 23, 2018, 02:12:56 AM
Brian, I am almost certain that is the same wheel I have, the American Racing Daisy Mag, only mine is gold, and is the complete wheel. I might still have the chrome version stored away. The inch measurement comes out to 1.647 inches, which equals the 41.85mm. I also dug up a tach.
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on October 28, 2018, 01:40:43 PM
   Figured out how I am going to set the front ride height....barrowing from the same way that some of us adjust the height of the main roll cage to fit up against the inside portion of a roof.

(https://images14.fotki.com/v1315/photos/0/3714830/15545438/102818004-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/10-28-18-004.html)

Fabricated shock mounts (White) that fits inside the original pieces that Bob had done on the frame.  Will drill a hole in the shock mounts for the Brass rod to pass thru.  Once the desired ride height has been established, I'll cut the remaining Brass rod above the shock mount off, leaving aprox. 1-2mm. for detail (threaded top portion and nut)...the Aluminum pieces will go over the Brass rod to make up the shock body and shaft assembly and the coil spring section and related pieces over those pieces for the coil overs .  Once everything is in place, either 2 part epoxy or CA or both will be used for a strong bond that will be needed to keep everything in place.  This front axle also has Ford strut type lower control arms which will help in keeping the front axle where its supposed to be.   
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on December 12, 2018, 09:43:55 PM
  After getting the struts attached to the axle beam came the task of aligning the front end.....took longer than I thought it should, but like what has been stated before at this large of a scale every little thing really sticks out if its not done correctly.

   (https://images12.fotki.com/v1667/photos/0/3714830/15545438/121218111-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/12-12-18-111.html)
  This build is suppose to represent what would have been found in the mid to late 60's...Bob had just started on some coil over type shocks before his stroke.  His wishes where to build something like the Monroe Load Handler shocks from the 60's.  I was able to locate some decent pictures of those shocks on the net.  I have established the front ride height by using LEGO's to support the frame in 3 places.  I will disassemble what is shown here and fill the shocks with Epoxy to make them solid pieces to hold the correct height.  The shock mount on the frame will be cleaned up and painted to match the bracket and the Brass rod that is sticking thru will be trimmed down and be detailed to resemble the top threaded portion of a shock with a nut.

  (https://images49.fotki.com/v109/photos/0/3714830/15545438/121218122-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/12-12-18-122.html)
  Bob saw the picture that David Bogard had posted of a Ford pickup and told me that is exactly what he is after as far as front and rear ride height.  This is a mock up...so far so good.       
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: David Bogard on December 12, 2018, 11:43:13 PM
We'll check for uneven tire wear a little later to see if you actually have this lined up and balanced. (ha!) Just kidding! Nice work Brian.
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on December 13, 2018, 07:13:06 PM
  Thanks!
(https://images34.fotki.com/v1523/photos/0/3714830/13988633/bearaligment-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/my-first-album/bearaligment.html)
  Probably wouldn't have taken as long if I had enlisted the help from the Grateful Dead Bear  8) ::)
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on December 17, 2018, 09:49:43 PM
  Received some goodies for this build from Marty W  :).....u-joints, a tach, a complete rear wheel to replace the one with the missing half and some Black elastic lacing that I'll find some where to use.

 (https://images60.fotki.com/v292/photos/0/3714830/15545438/121718005-vi.jpg) (https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/helping-a-fellow-sc/12-17-18-005.html)
  Got the front suspension finished and have moved on to plumbing the brake lines.  The shocks have been filled with Epoxy and are solid as a rock.  Added some Walthers #2-56 Hex Nuts to the top of the shock mounts where the supporting Brass rod passes thru to give the illusion of the top of the shock being secured by a nut.  The front suspension has to be able to support the weight of the cab as well as the 427 engine which is pretty much a solid mass of resin.  I might have to add some foam donuts to the inside of the rubber tires is they flatten out too much due to the weight.

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 Right front brake line detail....found some smaller AWG wire that just happened to be Black that is pretty much spot on diameter wise for the rubber brake line....not really visible, but I bored a hole into the brake caliper area and made a plausible fitting and attached everything in the hole much the same way you would with drilling out holes in an engine block for plug wires.
  The mounting bracket on the frame and fitting on the hose end is Evergreen.  Couldn't figure out what I was going to do for the steel brake lines....everything was either too small or too big.  While out in the garage scrounging up Christmas lights for the front yard display ....its somewhere between a Clark Griswald and Cousin Eddy project... I notice my wire feed welder...LIGHTBULB.  I put the Christmas light project on hold...hey, I still got 45 minutes of sunlight to do an hour and a half's worth of work out in the front yard ::)  Fire up the welder, hit the trigger feed and get 2 or 3 foot of wire which should be enough to plumb all 4 corners.  Check the wire diameter with the digital calipers and its with in +- diameter for 8th scale Steel brake lines.
  Going to be off the grid ..so to speak..at least off of the computer for the next couple of weeks.  Will be spending a Christmas vacation in Colorado with Amy's Daughter, Grandson and family.
  SO I BID A MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL..
 
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: David Bogard on January 10, 2019, 12:49:28 PM
I seem to recall some kind of "resolution" on this. (needle, needle, ha!) Any updates Brian?
Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on January 10, 2019, 09:09:18 PM
  Update...
  Its on a short hold til Bob gets back with me...
  I did get a steering gear box scratch built....still need to fab up a Pitman arm and drag link for the steering.  Started to plumb and "correctly" route the Right front brake lines.  I had started off heading in the wrong direction (see pic in previous post) ...once I get some more accomplished , I'll post some more pictures.
  I sent him an e-mail a few days ago asking if he had any 427 F.E headers for this build.  I'm needing at least the drivers side to check to see if there will be any clearance issues with the steering gear box...just like in the 1:1 world.
  Bob's got a header mold some where in his house if he doesn't have a set already cast from the past.  Because he is confined to the first floor , most if not all of his building stuff including the rubber-n-resin got moved to the basement.  He has a live in 24/7 care provider that occupies what was his build room on the first floor and I think everything got moved into the pour room (rubber and resin) in the basement.
  If I haven't heard anything back from him, I'll give him a call this week end.

  In the mean time, I've been piddling around with a 1:25 dirt late model build...probably should start posting some progress pics on this build as well in the Fab shop-Under Construction section.

Title: Re: Helping a fellow scratch builder out in 1/8th scale
Post by: Brian Conn on March 04, 2020, 10:16:57 PM
  No, not really, piddled around with it a little bit.  I do need to get this finished and back to Bob.  When I was working on this, it pretty much took up all of the clear work space on the table.....it's not like the 1:25 stuff where I can toss everything back in the kit box and set it aside.  I can only focus on one build at a time , so when I got started back on the Mustang II dirt late model, the '56 pick up got moved off of the table with all intentions of continuing to work on it, now the same thing can be said for the Mustang II as its been placed aside in favor of the '55 Ford Customline modified street stock.
  We have entered into the busy time of the year at work...10,11,12 hr. work days happen with frequency, so the only free time to devote to building happens on the week ends after everything else that didn't get done around the house gets done......not making excuses, just the way things happen :-[