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Other => Non Short Track => Topic started by: David Bogard on May 28, 2019, 11:55:49 PM

Title: '41 Plymouth Completed 6-24-2019
Post by: David Bogard on May 28, 2019, 11:55:49 PM
Thought I'd take a break from race cars and build a simple '41 Plymouth from AMT. Should have stuck with race cars! The kit had so much flash that it took me two days just to get that cleaned up. The fit is not terrible but detail is very minimal. The body is the most perplexing part. Overall, it's really quite nice except when it comes to the front. For some reason AMT chose to mold the front separately and it just doesn't fit very well at all. After a bunch of fiddling, you've got this squared off looking mess up front with big seams. Yikes! So, I sanded, filled seams with putty, sanded some more, filled again, and so on. It is finally starting to look fairly close and of course I had to make some new chrome ribbing with .020 round Evergreen since that tiny little (too small) rib never showed up with the front glued in and it got sanded off when all of the thrashing started. So here we are. Not all the way there yet up front but getting close. So anyone who wants to build this kit stock just needs to be ready to spend a bunch of time jacking around witht he nose. Why didn't AMT just mold it in like the rest of the nice body? I have no idea but it sure makes for a lot of unnecessary work.
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Here's the "Pro-Built" one for the box art version of the same basic model kit. Look at the nose seams. And those look pretty good compared to what you start with! Still, you're going to want to smooth this thing out when you build yours.
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Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth
Post by: Olderndirt on May 29, 2019, 08:36:48 AM
David, you are right on the money with your evaluation of this kit. It’s a nice kit in many ways, but the shortcomings you mention would make it hard to build a nice factory stock, or even a mild custom, without a lot of rework. The two I built ended up being a early modified, and a radical custom for those very reasons. That front end, and the large amount of flash on the headlights made it a less than enjoyable build. I did love fabricating  all the speed equipment for the flathead six though, once again because the 318 cu.in. engine offered as a custom option, was very lackluster, and seemed to be undersized.

  Olderndirt
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth
Post by: Lefturns75 on May 31, 2019, 01:55:07 PM
David, that kit came along when AMT was gasping for air and right before it was sold to Matchbox/Lesney.  I am sure the way the front was molded was a tooling call to cut some costs.  The first couple of issues---Black car on red box and same artwork with addition of Matchbox logo--- have a crisper detail than the later versions.  I doubt this kit ever gets a tooling update as it never was a top seller in the AMT line.   I says just build it and do what ya gotta do.  If some Ya-Hoo says it's not correct they can go pound sand.  I figure you can make it look pretty outstanding correct or not and I am not sure I have ever seen over one 1:1 41 Plymouth so I wouldnt know if it's right or not.   Build on Picasso and don't sweat the small stuff.
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth
Post by: john2 on May 31, 2019, 04:41:21 PM
Careful David.  You'll hurt that little  Plymouth's feelings.
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth
Post by: Marty W on May 31, 2019, 06:41:04 PM
HEY! Those wheels are NOT STOCK!  ;D
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth
Post by: Marty W on June 01, 2019, 01:37:03 AM
Marty, I promise I am using only the stuff from the kit. I painted around a little on that front one and they will look something like that. However, now that you may have pointed out such a fatal flaw I think I will throw the entire thing in the fire. . . after I back over it with my truck. What was I thinking? How could I have have even attempted to pull off something so blatantly incorrect!!! I am banning myself temporarily for committing such a heinous modeling crime!

(Before anyone gets jacked up, this is an inside running thing with Marty and me so relax!  ;D)

LOL! Actually, if the rim was painted between the outer chrome ring and the hubcap, it would be stock. They just chromed the whole wheel.
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth
Post by: Brian Conn on June 01, 2019, 10:57:47 AM
  A casual observers opinion....

   I cant as easily identify cars older than the mid 50's as some can when it comes being able to identify looks or characteristics....that being said , I think that you are being too hard on yourself.  As Lefturns 75 pointed out, there are inherent flaws with this kit, not with the builder.  Sounds like you had a plan in mind and are executing it as far as what you thought needed done to make it look right.   

  It's a hideous piece only in your minds eye....     
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth
Post by: john2 on June 01, 2019, 11:32:48 AM
I'll send you $3.00 Canadian for it.
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth
Post by: john2 on June 02, 2019, 05:49:07 AM
Well, I believe I am right  --   Marty built a pretty decent looking figure 8 car out of one. Maybe that would work for you too.

Or maybe it was Tarheel Rick.
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth
Post by: TarheelRick on June 02, 2019, 06:07:15 AM
Well, I believe I am right  --   Marty built a pretty decent looking figure 8 car out of one. Maybe that would work for you too.

Or maybe it was Tarheel Rick.
Guilty!!  Of course I cut the front end off and bungee tied the hood down.
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth
Post by: john2 on June 02, 2019, 02:57:34 PM
Thanks Rick.
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth
Post by: Bob P. on June 03, 2019, 06:41:05 PM
Excellent work David, you have that old Plymouth looking good.

Bob
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth 6-6-2019 Update
Post by: Lefturns75 on June 06, 2019, 12:35:59 PM
David, you got that old dog kit looking beautifully ugly.  That is, beautiful work on a really ugly car.  I have a few of these in a pile and I think that is where I will leave them.  I think you could polish a turd and make it look like a brick of gold.  With that said, I have a couple of Palmer kits I outta send ya!  Not done much plastic lately, been in the middle of restoring some Tonka Trucks from my childhood.  I'll get back to gloo'in some stuff a little later.  This hobby of ours takes me in one big circle but it keeps me from getting burned out on one thing. 
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth 6-6-2019 Update
Post by: john2 on June 06, 2019, 02:18:22 PM
I guess this means you're not taking my $3.00 Canadian.
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth 6-6-2019 Update
Post by: john2 on June 06, 2019, 06:12:22 PM
That's great, David.  It is looking good.
Title: Re: AMT '41 Plymouth 6-6-2019 Update
Post by: TarheelRick on June 07, 2019, 06:37:59 AM
Good looking Mayflower.  I appreciate all the work you put into this one.  I have another one in my stash and if I ever get to it I will use this build as a basis to complete mine.
Title: Re: '41 Plymouth Completed 6-24-2019
Post by: TarheelRick on June 25, 2019, 06:47:18 AM
Definitely a silk purse.  The Bogard magic touch claims another dog of a kit and turns it into a beauty.  Great job David.
Title: Re: '41 Plymouth Completed 6-24-2019
Post by: john2 on June 25, 2019, 10:48:20 AM
Great job David --  on a difficult model.
Title: Re: '41 Plymouth Completed 6-24-2019
Post by: Fordguy01 on June 27, 2019, 12:33:34 PM
David you did that car so much justice its not funny.  I too have tried to build that car several times in the past but gave up as I couldn't get anything to properly fit and look half way decent so into the box they went but after seeing what you have accomplished I may someday try my hand at one of these cars.  I also understand what you and the others said about foiling and when done right it is a beautiful thing but with my skills I stay away from it as much as possible and I'm a happier modeler because of it.  Great job David.

Al

   
Title: Re: '41 Plymouth Completed 6-24-2019
Post by: sentsat71 on June 27, 2019, 04:28:04 PM
Looks GREAT!

Title: Re: '41 Plymouth Completed 6-24-2019
Post by: john2 on July 02, 2019, 04:59:39 PM
Completely understandable.  Go head on.
Title: Re: '41 Plymouth Completed 6-24-2019
Post by: Brian Conn on July 05, 2019, 02:08:42 PM
....I'm not to keen on the '41 Plymouth , but I must say considering what you had to start with and what you ended up with , you did an outstanding job.
Title: Re: '41 Plymouth Completed 6-24-2019
Post by: Dirtman on July 05, 2019, 10:18:15 PM
I'm the same way with foil. I've been doing '69 Mach I for a month. When I get time I do a little and walk away. Same reason as you, plus I'm busy enjoying my new motorcycle, lol. Between having fun and doing things around the house, building has been taking longer lately...

Rett
Title: Re: '41 Plymouth Completed 6-24-2019
Post by: Greg Birky on February 17, 2020, 04:23:36 PM
David, I totally missed this cool build!!!  You pulled off a fantastic build of a greatly overlooked old AMT treasure.  She’s gorgeous and should definitely do some front and center time in your display case!!!  Nice build!!!😎🏁🏁🏁
Title: Re: '41 Plymouth Completed 6-24-2019
Post by: MarkJ on February 19, 2020, 01:16:52 PM
Thats awesome, David. No need to hide that one . Its absolutely beautiful. Sometimes its fun to do something out of the norm.